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		<title>By: FM Transmitter</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 23:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These can be good in garden but for the apartments they would look very messy.
Although a good use of waste.</description>
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Although a good use of waste.</p>
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		<title>By: Peyote Sky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peyote Sky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Morning Daniel, I can&#039;t believe your site is not getting far more in-put ~ Harvest time has arrived and i wanted to report that everything you said was very true about over-crowding and that tomatoes especially but most other veggies do demand a much larger container ~ However my Cayenne peppers have produced pretty good though much more plentiful in the larger containers ~ problem for us all is that apartment dwellers have to smuggle large amounts of dirt up stairs or to roof tops ~ (lots of friends in New York City are doing this on roof tops) ~Each year Lowes and Walmart sell cheap bags of cow pooh compost &amp;/or top soil for about about $1.33 for 40lb bags ~ If ya got a yard a suggest you check out the HUMANURE HANDBOOK by Joespeh Jenkins ~ You can build a thermophylic compost bin useing 4 pallets and a self composting toilet for about $10 ~ Recycle your grey water onto fruit trees ~ Catch rainwater from your roof ~ create your own solar water heater systems ~ EPA in most states are young educated people who know about all this and encourage it ~ Your local code enforcement man may need educating ~ Septic tanks are nasty and water toilets are wastful ~ Get off the power grid and as much as you can, away from the money systems ~ Work for yourself and not for the man ~ Tax man doesn&#039;t mess with people who grow food just for subsistance farming ~ Throw out your news paper, &#039;Blow up ya TV&#039; and this durn computer, buy some #2 pencils &quot;Eat a lot of peaches, try to find Jesus on your own&quot; John Prine ~ Love &amp; Respect, In Solidarity ~ Peyote ~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Morning Daniel, I can&#8217;t believe your site is not getting far more in-put ~ Harvest time has arrived and i wanted to report that everything you said was very true about over-crowding and that tomatoes especially but most other veggies do demand a much larger container ~ However my Cayenne peppers have produced pretty good though much more plentiful in the larger containers ~ problem for us all is that apartment dwellers have to smuggle large amounts of dirt up stairs or to roof tops ~ (lots of friends in New York City are doing this on roof tops) ~Each year Lowes and Walmart sell cheap bags of cow pooh compost &amp;/or top soil for about about $1.33 for 40lb bags ~ If ya got a yard a suggest you check out the HUMANURE HANDBOOK by Joespeh Jenkins ~ You can build a thermophylic compost bin useing 4 pallets and a self composting toilet for about $10 ~ Recycle your grey water onto fruit trees ~ Catch rainwater from your roof ~ create your own solar water heater systems ~ EPA in most states are young educated people who know about all this and encourage it ~ Your local code enforcement man may need educating ~ Septic tanks are nasty and water toilets are wastful ~ Get off the power grid and as much as you can, away from the money systems ~ Work for yourself and not for the man ~ Tax man doesn&#8217;t mess with people who grow food just for subsistance farming ~ Throw out your news paper, &#8216;Blow up ya TV&#8217; and this durn computer, buy some #2 pencils &#8220;Eat a lot of peaches, try to find Jesus on your own&#8221; John Prine ~ Love &amp; Respect, In Solidarity ~ Peyote ~</p>
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		<title>By: Salvia Divinorum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salvia Divinorum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 19:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milk jugs make excellent planters! They&#039;re large enough for almost anything you&#039;d want to plant in your home, and the flexibility of the material makes it easy to work with. Thanks for the article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milk jugs make excellent planters! They&#8217;re large enough for almost anything you&#8217;d want to plant in your home, and the flexibility of the material makes it easy to work with. Thanks for the article!</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peyote Sky: Thanks for you kind comments. I also wondered about UV challenges for milk jugs, so I left last year&#039;s milk jug planters hanging through the winter. They show no sign of deterioration. Other items I&#039;ve planted in have broken down in the sunlight... but at least for on season, I&#039;m very happy with the durability of milk jugs. This season, I&#039;m using cut up milk jugs to start seeds and to catch overflow from peat pots and peat pellets in which I&#039;m starting seeds indoors.

So, I&#039;ll continue to use plastic milk jugs as planters... but I&#039;ll also limit my expectations for them: some plants simply require more soil than you can put in a milk jug. For those, I&#039;ve been considering the plastic &quot;nursery pot&quot; bags that at so inexpensive from garden suppliers... though I still like the shopping bags. Some of my gardening friends have found reusable grocery bags that don&#039;t deteriorate in sunshine.

-Daniel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peyote Sky: Thanks for you kind comments. I also wondered about UV challenges for milk jugs, so I left last year&#8217;s milk jug planters hanging through the winter. They show no sign of deterioration. Other items I&#8217;ve planted in have broken down in the sunlight&#8230; but at least for on season, I&#8217;m very happy with the durability of milk jugs. This season, I&#8217;m using cut up milk jugs to start seeds and to catch overflow from peat pots and peat pellets in which I&#8217;m starting seeds indoors.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;ll continue to use plastic milk jugs as planters&#8230; but I&#8217;ll also limit my expectations for them: some plants simply require more soil than you can put in a milk jug. For those, I&#8217;ve been considering the plastic &#8220;nursery pot&#8221; bags that at so inexpensive from garden suppliers&#8230; though I still like the shopping bags. Some of my gardening friends have found reusable grocery bags that don&#8217;t deteriorate in sunshine.</p>
<p>-Daniel</p>
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		<title>By: Peyote Sky</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a wonderful miracle to discover your site ~ I thought I discovered using plastic milk jugs and was so hyped because buying containers is expensive ~ just between me you and the fence post the National Census is giving away for free the recycled shopping bags, usually at Public Libraries ~ Container growing solves a multitude of problems ~ So thankful for your info ~ In Solidarity ~ Peyote ~
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a wonderful miracle to discover your site ~ I thought I discovered using plastic milk jugs and was so hyped because buying containers is expensive ~ just between me you and the fence post the National Census is giving away for free the recycled shopping bags, usually at Public Libraries ~ Container growing solves a multitude of problems ~ So thankful for your info ~ In Solidarity ~ Peyote ~</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen</title>
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		<description>HI, 
I have been experimenting with the shopping bag except right side up with sunflower, tomatoes, egg plant, zucchini, squash. Works great!. It seems to be much healthier for the plants. I guess it could be argued, but hydroponics, reusing the rocks with yogurt containers in soda bottles for herbs and such. For larger plants like cherry tomatoes, amaranth, peppers, you can use cheap net pots into vinegar containers. I haven&#039;t tried the upside down jugs, I love that idea of hanging them the way you do. I have critters, so everyihing has to be up. Thank you for your website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI,<br />
I have been experimenting with the shopping bag except right side up with sunflower, tomatoes, egg plant, zucchini, squash. Works great!. It seems to be much healthier for the plants. I guess it could be argued, but hydroponics, reusing the rocks with yogurt containers in soda bottles for herbs and such. For larger plants like cherry tomatoes, amaranth, peppers, you can use cheap net pots into vinegar containers. I haven&#8217;t tried the upside down jugs, I love that idea of hanging them the way you do. I have critters, so everyihing has to be up. Thank you for your website.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elizabeth: The answer to your question will take about twenty blog posts just to scrape the surface. I have a few specific ideas, but I must start with a caveat:

Few traditionally-gardened edible plants will grow to maturity without angst in a one-gallon planter. Popular plants such as tomatoes, potatoes, egg plant, and peppers are very large plants and would overwhelm even a three-gallon container... I mentioned in this post or the one before it that container gardeners consider a five-gallon planter to be appropriate for a tomato plant. It will handle many other vegetables as well. (I love those shopping bags as the ideal size for container gardening most vegetables.)

That said, you can grow a whole bunch of produce in gallon-sized containers if you&#039;re willing to eat it young. And why not? Lettuces and spinach are tasty at any size until they put out flowers. Herbs may want to grow huge, but many tolerate aggressive pruning &amp; harvesting, and they keep sending out new growth as you cut off the tops to use in your cooking. As long as you accept that your plants will outgrow the containers and probably fail, you can harvest from them happily until that happens.

Also: plants will tolerate crowding way beyond what the seed packages tell you. I encourage people to plant tight and thin as appropriate. This strategy will let you grow a lot of food in a small pot... again, until it chokes itself or you transplant to a larger container.

Finally, you can trick more growth out of crowded plants by feeding them. They won&#039;t be able to draw enough nutrition from the soil once they&#039;re root bound, so they&#039;ll benefit considerably from regular feeding of plant food.

A few I&#039;d try in a milk jug: Leaf lettuce and spinach. Beans... especially climbing beans - two or three (well, I&#039;d try nine, but I haven&#039;t yet) per jug with something to climb. To get enough to eat in a single meal, you&#039;ll probably need to have four or five jugs of beans going at once. Short varieties of carrots - try to distribute them to have one carrot per square inch of surface. You might harvest 20-30 carrots from a single jug... but take some when they&#039;re young, and let others mature. Onions from sets... maybe three or four per milk jug (unless you plant Spanish onions). Basil - perhaps the most popular container herb. Just about any herb will work-even perennials. I had a thyme plant last about six years in a container that was smaller than a gallon.

OK, this could have been a really inadequate blog post, so I&#039;ll stop. I&#039;ll talk more about some of this throughout the growing season, so please stay tuned. Also, there are other bloggers who focus exclusively on container gardening, and you&#039;ll find some great stuff on their sites. One I just met is: &lt;a href=&quot;http://containergardening.about.com/b/&quot;&gt;Kerry&#039;s Container Gardening Blog&lt;/a&gt;. I&#039;ve only glanced at it, but it has some topics appropriate to kitchen gardening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elizabeth: The answer to your question will take about twenty blog posts just to scrape the surface. I have a few specific ideas, but I must start with a caveat:</p>
<p>Few traditionally-gardened edible plants will grow to maturity without angst in a one-gallon planter. Popular plants such as tomatoes, potatoes, egg plant, and peppers are very large plants and would overwhelm even a three-gallon container&#8230; I mentioned in this post or the one before it that container gardeners consider a five-gallon planter to be appropriate for a tomato plant. It will handle many other vegetables as well. (I love those shopping bags as the ideal size for container gardening most vegetables.)</p>
<p>That said, you can grow a whole bunch of produce in gallon-sized containers if you&#8217;re willing to eat it young. And why not? Lettuces and spinach are tasty at any size until they put out flowers. Herbs may want to grow huge, but many tolerate aggressive pruning &#038; harvesting, and they keep sending out new growth as you cut off the tops to use in your cooking. As long as you accept that your plants will outgrow the containers and probably fail, you can harvest from them happily until that happens.</p>
<p>Also: plants will tolerate crowding way beyond what the seed packages tell you. I encourage people to plant tight and thin as appropriate. This strategy will let you grow a lot of food in a small pot&#8230; again, until it chokes itself or you transplant to a larger container.</p>
<p>Finally, you can trick more growth out of crowded plants by feeding them. They won&#8217;t be able to draw enough nutrition from the soil once they&#8217;re root bound, so they&#8217;ll benefit considerably from regular feeding of plant food.</p>
<p>A few I&#8217;d try in a milk jug: Leaf lettuce and spinach. Beans&#8230; especially climbing beans &#8211; two or three (well, I&#8217;d try nine, but I haven&#8217;t yet) per jug with something to climb. To get enough to eat in a single meal, you&#8217;ll probably need to have four or five jugs of beans going at once. Short varieties of carrots &#8211; try to distribute them to have one carrot per square inch of surface. You might harvest 20-30 carrots from a single jug&#8230; but take some when they&#8217;re young, and let others mature. Onions from sets&#8230; maybe three or four per milk jug (unless you plant Spanish onions). Basil &#8211; perhaps the most popular container herb. Just about any herb will work-even perennials. I had a thyme plant last about six years in a container that was smaller than a gallon.</p>
<p>OK, this could have been a really inadequate blog post, so I&#8217;ll stop. I&#8217;ll talk more about some of this throughout the growing season, so please stay tuned. Also, there are other bloggers who focus exclusively on container gardening, and you&#8217;ll find some great stuff on their sites. One I just met is: <a href="http://containergardening.about.com/b/">Kerry&#8217;s Container Gardening Blog</a>. I&#8217;ve only glanced at it, but it has some topics appropriate to kitchen gardening.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been surfing for info on container gardening with recycled products and found this blog.  It was so helpful, I loved the idea of the re-useable grocery bag!  I am looking to put together a container gardening night for a church group.  There are a lot of low income families in our congregation, mostly apartment dwellers. I want to show them that they can grow a few simple things for their family without spending a ton of money.  I was hoping you could recommend some editable plants you could grow to full size in a milk jug or other everyday container.  I found lots of info about seed starts in milk jugs, but not a lot about what you can keep in a container like that.  Any suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been surfing for info on container gardening with recycled products and found this blog.  It was so helpful, I loved the idea of the re-useable grocery bag!  I am looking to put together a container gardening night for a church group.  There are a lot of low income families in our congregation, mostly apartment dwellers. I want to show them that they can grow a few simple things for their family without spending a ton of money.  I was hoping you could recommend some editable plants you could grow to full size in a milk jug or other everyday container.  I found lots of info about seed starts in milk jugs, but not a lot about what you can keep in a container like that.  Any suggestions?</p>
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